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		<title>By: Jong Eun Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jong Eun Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bill, Thank You. I am very touched by your conciliatory tones. 

I totally agree with you on the matter of searching for Turth, yes, it could take many lifetimes but we Christians should continue to search for God&#039;s Truth, together. So long as you recognize and have patience with this sometimes challenging process, I am more than willing as a Christian brother to continue to talk to you on theolgical matters so through you and others, I can come closer to God&#039;s wisdom. 

I also agree with you on the different variations of Christian church worship. Or on not making quick judgments. Or on disciplining our immaturity in our freedom within Christ. 

In fact, for the 1st time I ever came to this blog I think I am in 99% agreement with some one!! So long you and I are committed to faciliating &quot;peace and respect&quot; among different Christians who disagree but are still trying to search God&#039;s Truth, I am in agreement with all your views!!

Thank You for your patience and understanding, Mr. Bill. I am joyful that I actually reached a common agreement with a more conservative-leaning brother in Christ. (Why can&#039;t more conservative christians be like you?). God bless you for dedication to God&#039;s truth and compassion for your fellow brothers. I too have enjoyed our disucssions very much and give me hope that in spite of some harsh words, miscommunication, and hurt feelings, we Christians can grow together in Christ our Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bill, Thank You. I am very touched by your conciliatory tones. </p>
<p>I totally agree with you on the matter of searching for Turth, yes, it could take many lifetimes but we Christians should continue to search for God&#8217;s Truth, together. So long as you recognize and have patience with this sometimes challenging process, I am more than willing as a Christian brother to continue to talk to you on theolgical matters so through you and others, I can come closer to God&#8217;s wisdom. </p>
<p>I also agree with you on the different variations of Christian church worship. Or on not making quick judgments. Or on disciplining our immaturity in our freedom within Christ. </p>
<p>In fact, for the 1st time I ever came to this blog I think I am in 99% agreement with some one!! So long you and I are committed to faciliating &#8220;peace and respect&#8221; among different Christians who disagree but are still trying to search God&#8217;s Truth, I am in agreement with all your views!!</p>
<p>Thank You for your patience and understanding, Mr. Bill. I am joyful that I actually reached a common agreement with a more conservative-leaning brother in Christ. (Why can&#8217;t more conservative christians be like you?). God bless you for dedication to God&#8217;s truth and compassion for your fellow brothers. I too have enjoyed our disucssions very much and give me hope that in spite of some harsh words, miscommunication, and hurt feelings, we Christians can grow together in Christ our Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2914</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jong Eun Lee - Perhaps we are getting closer in agreement here. However, one statement made &quot;Just because we disagee on matters doesn’t mean there is a right answer, the Truth.&quot; I have to take issue with. There is one Truth, otherwise it wouldn&#039;t be defined as Truth - but opinion. I will agree that we may not grasp all of it, or even at times a portion of it - but Truth is correct and singular. We must recognize that when we don&#039;t agree - at least one of us (or perhaps both of us) is wrong. In recognizing that we are wrong on a principle, we need to continue to research to gain a better understanding of Truth. Agreed - this may take many lifetimes - but do we really have anything better to do than to study what God has layed out for us? 

As for your discussion on Church emphesis - I see that many different churches emphasize various aspects of worship and gifts. I do not find this at all in conflict. In fact, I believe that it allows for our various gifts to be utilized in the most effective ways. 

In your discussion on Corinthians &quot;Like in Corinthians, some Christians may occassionally drink alchol but others may decry it as setting wrong example before others(and runing your body the Temple of God).&quot; I believe Paul discussed not causing your brother to stumble. This was written to many who were immature in their freedom within Christ. He declared a priority - our Brother&#039;s security in Christ over our Freedom in Him. Our freedom to be allowed when not causing our brothers to stumble. In this case I don&#039;t think it was intolerance as much as immaturity and lack of full understanding of Grace.

I also agree on &quot;quick judgements&quot; of others. I hope you don&#039;t feel that I was judging you as I have no right to do so - it is not my place. I have been actually enjoying our discussions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jong Eun Lee &#8211; Perhaps we are getting closer in agreement here. However, one statement made &#8220;Just because we disagee on matters doesn’t mean there is a right answer, the Truth.&#8221; I have to take issue with. There is one Truth, otherwise it wouldn&#8217;t be defined as Truth &#8211; but opinion. I will agree that we may not grasp all of it, or even at times a portion of it &#8211; but Truth is correct and singular. We must recognize that when we don&#8217;t agree &#8211; at least one of us (or perhaps both of us) is wrong. In recognizing that we are wrong on a principle, we need to continue to research to gain a better understanding of Truth. Agreed &#8211; this may take many lifetimes &#8211; but do we really have anything better to do than to study what God has layed out for us? </p>
<p>As for your discussion on Church emphesis &#8211; I see that many different churches emphasize various aspects of worship and gifts. I do not find this at all in conflict. In fact, I believe that it allows for our various gifts to be utilized in the most effective ways. </p>
<p>In your discussion on Corinthians &#8220;Like in Corinthians, some Christians may occassionally drink alchol but others may decry it as setting wrong example before others(and runing your body the Temple of God).&#8221; I believe Paul discussed not causing your brother to stumble. This was written to many who were immature in their freedom within Christ. He declared a priority &#8211; our Brother&#8217;s security in Christ over our Freedom in Him. Our freedom to be allowed when not causing our brothers to stumble. In this case I don&#8217;t think it was intolerance as much as immaturity and lack of full understanding of Grace.</p>
<p>I also agree on &#8220;quick judgements&#8221; of others. I hope you don&#8217;t feel that I was judging you as I have no right to do so &#8211; it is not my place. I have been actually enjoying our discussions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jong Eun Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2913</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong Eun Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 02:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melody, I wasn&#039;t deliberately ignoring your views on evolution and other theolgical matters. I am not interested in theolgically defeating(?) you, for now at least. 

My interest was assuming hyptohetically that we did discuss on evolution, for days, for months, for years,(I did with my Christians friends, and I am sure you did as well), and hyptohetically we couldn&#039;t reach an agreement because of our firm commitment to our beliefs. Then, what? Evolution, predestination, etc. in many issues I or any Christian can argue with you and very likely, we will not convince each other. That is my chief concern, when theolgical agreement can not be reached after discussions. 

Should we then assume something is terribly wrong with other&#039;s theology and ask him for repentance? Or perhaps realize I, he, or perhaps both of us need to go back to scripture and study again His Word, so perhaps next time we meet we might find the Truth? That is why, going back to reason I asked you the 1st question in the first place, I strongly believe Christian campuses should allow Christians of different Biblical interpretations to make their cases heard and debated. 

To what extent your personal Biblical interpretation differs from mine was not my interest of discussion, only on &quot;how Christians in general should respond to other Christians when they debate&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melody, I wasn&#8217;t deliberately ignoring your views on evolution and other theolgical matters. I am not interested in theolgically defeating(?) you, for now at least. </p>
<p>My interest was assuming hyptohetically that we did discuss on evolution, for days, for months, for years,(I did with my Christians friends, and I am sure you did as well), and hyptohetically we couldn&#8217;t reach an agreement because of our firm commitment to our beliefs. Then, what? Evolution, predestination, etc. in many issues I or any Christian can argue with you and very likely, we will not convince each other. That is my chief concern, when theolgical agreement can not be reached after discussions. </p>
<p>Should we then assume something is terribly wrong with other&#8217;s theology and ask him for repentance? Or perhaps realize I, he, or perhaps both of us need to go back to scripture and study again His Word, so perhaps next time we meet we might find the Truth? That is why, going back to reason I asked you the 1st question in the first place, I strongly believe Christian campuses should allow Christians of different Biblical interpretations to make their cases heard and debated. </p>
<p>To what extent your personal Biblical interpretation differs from mine was not my interest of discussion, only on &#8220;how Christians in general should respond to other Christians when they debate&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jong Eun Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong Eun Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bill I agree with most of what you wrote. Just because we disagee on matters doesn&#039;t mean there is a right answer, the Truth. And we Christians should continuosuly discuss the Bible to come closer to Truth, using tools such as cultual settings, original languages, etc. 

But may I slightly tweak your framework twice? A. This discussions may take long, long time. For an instance, evolution(the issue that I WILL NOT GO INTO FURTHER) Christians have discussed since.........1920s, and we have not yet reached an agreement. Assuming that we are in for another 50,80 years of disucssions on this one issue, I think churches should allow every Christians to think about it, pray about it, and keep disucssing this issue. (But certainly after return of Christ, WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE WHO IS RIGHT).        

B. There is one truth, but perhaps there can be different aspects to the Biblical Truth that churches may emphasize? Like for an instance, Pentecotals emphsizes the spiriutal blessings like healing, speaking in tongues. Presbytarians are more traditional in worship. Like in Corinthians, some Christians may occassionally drink alchol but others may decry it as setting wrong example before others(and runing your body the Temple of God). In such cases, couldn&#039;t the problem be that one church simply is intolerant of the worship style and decisions of other church?   

I will gravely take your advice on walking a fine line of diversity(after all I recognize there are hereises, like Jehovah&#039;s Witness for an instance). But I also think there is a fine line on conviction in one&#039;s faith and quick judgments on fellow Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bill I agree with most of what you wrote. Just because we disagee on matters doesn&#8217;t mean there is a right answer, the Truth. And we Christians should continuosuly discuss the Bible to come closer to Truth, using tools such as cultual settings, original languages, etc. </p>
<p>But may I slightly tweak your framework twice? A. This discussions may take long, long time. For an instance, evolution(the issue that I WILL NOT GO INTO FURTHER) Christians have discussed since&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;1920s, and we have not yet reached an agreement. Assuming that we are in for another 50,80 years of disucssions on this one issue, I think churches should allow every Christians to think about it, pray about it, and keep disucssing this issue. (But certainly after return of Christ, WE WILL KNOW FOR SURE WHO IS RIGHT).        </p>
<p>B. There is one truth, but perhaps there can be different aspects to the Biblical Truth that churches may emphasize? Like for an instance, Pentecotals emphsizes the spiriutal blessings like healing, speaking in tongues. Presbytarians are more traditional in worship. Like in Corinthians, some Christians may occassionally drink alchol but others may decry it as setting wrong example before others(and runing your body the Temple of God). In such cases, couldn&#8217;t the problem be that one church simply is intolerant of the worship style and decisions of other church?   </p>
<p>I will gravely take your advice on walking a fine line of diversity(after all I recognize there are hereises, like Jehovah&#8217;s Witness for an instance). But I also think there is a fine line on conviction in one&#8217;s faith and quick judgments on fellow Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2910</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JEL - Christian can certainly disagree on things. That doesn&#039;t mean that both or either is right. There is, and I think we agree on this - only one truth - from one perspective (God). Our disagreement are due to our myopic understanding of that truth. So, when you say &quot;Is there room for diversity&quot; in the Church - you are walking a fine line between those that are truely continually striving to find absolute truth (or as Francis Schaeffer put it - the True Truth) and those that will accept different interpretations and leave it at that (just accept everyones interpretation - who are you to judge). If there is a difference of opinion, that shouldn&#039;t be just accepted as diversity, but as a call for further study. As Harmonicminer pointed out, that study may include cultural settings, original language, etc. Accepting more that one truth is unacceptable.

I don&#039;t think that the discussions between &quot;different sides&quot; of any debate should be nasty, rude or dogmatic. But I also believe that we cannot accept that &quot;both&quot; truths are acceptable as there is only one. If the views are mutually exclusive one or both are wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEL &#8211; Christian can certainly disagree on things. That doesn&#8217;t mean that both or either is right. There is, and I think we agree on this &#8211; only one truth &#8211; from one perspective (God). Our disagreement are due to our myopic understanding of that truth. So, when you say &#8220;Is there room for diversity&#8221; in the Church &#8211; you are walking a fine line between those that are truely continually striving to find absolute truth (or as Francis Schaeffer put it &#8211; the True Truth) and those that will accept different interpretations and leave it at that (just accept everyones interpretation &#8211; who are you to judge). If there is a difference of opinion, that shouldn&#8217;t be just accepted as diversity, but as a call for further study. As Harmonicminer pointed out, that study may include cultural settings, original language, etc. Accepting more that one truth is unacceptable.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the discussions between &#8220;different sides&#8221; of any debate should be nasty, rude or dogmatic. But I also believe that we cannot accept that &#8220;both&#8221; truths are acceptable as there is only one. If the views are mutually exclusive one or both are wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2909</link>
		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 22:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JEL, I have come to the conclusion after re-reading everything you have written on this thread vs everything I have written here (as well as harmonicminer himself) that you have absolutely no intention of ever stating what you actually believe about the issues you tossed out as being discussable theologically.  I have addressed evolution (and alcohol) and now you want to play a word game rather than give any reasons for your disagreement with my position. This is typical of liberalism.  I believe that if you had any real ability to discuss the creation issue - which you brought to the table - you would just jump right in with it.  When I read your words in the above comment &quot;...so are you in agreement with me that Christians can &quot;disagree&quot; on some theological matters...&quot; you are requiring me to agree with you, something you say that you abhor.  How silly is that?   JEL, you never give any concrete reasons for being on the political left.  You constantly try to change the subject when you are put on the spot.  The only framework you seem interested in is one of continuous deflection from the true subject at hand.  I have placed my beliefs on the table for everyone to see.  I have given reasons for my belief.  If you want to attempt to knock them down, please feel free to do so, but if you try to change the discussion again you will be talking to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEL, I have come to the conclusion after re-reading everything you have written on this thread vs everything I have written here (as well as harmonicminer himself) that you have absolutely no intention of ever stating what you actually believe about the issues you tossed out as being discussable theologically.  I have addressed evolution (and alcohol) and now you want to play a word game rather than give any reasons for your disagreement with my position. This is typical of liberalism.  I believe that if you had any real ability to discuss the creation issue &#8211; which you brought to the table &#8211; you would just jump right in with it.  When I read your words in the above comment &#8220;&#8230;so are you in agreement with me that Christians can &#8220;disagree&#8221; on some theological matters&#8230;&#8221; you are requiring me to agree with you, something you say that you abhor.  How silly is that?   JEL, you never give any concrete reasons for being on the political left.  You constantly try to change the subject when you are put on the spot.  The only framework you seem interested in is one of continuous deflection from the true subject at hand.  I have placed my beliefs on the table for everyone to see.  I have given reasons for my belief.  If you want to attempt to knock them down, please feel free to do so, but if you try to change the discussion again you will be talking to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Jong Eun Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2902</link>
		<dc:creator>Jong Eun Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 16:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melody I have changed my views on literal creationism, but wait, so are you in agreement with me that Christians can &quot;disagree&quot; on some theoligcal matters, and therefore there is room for debates and diversity within the church? Do you agree with my seperation of essentail faith matters, and non-essential faith matters(like infant baptism)? 

I need to know your answers first, so I can know what framework we are discussing creationism, a matter of &quot;differed theolgical interpretation&quot;, or a matter of &quot;absolute right vs. wrong&quot;(meaning if one side is wrong, that side will be condmened by God as heretics, just like Jeohovah&#039;s Witness). 
Before I give my testimony, I will first wait for your resposne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melody I have changed my views on literal creationism, but wait, so are you in agreement with me that Christians can &#8220;disagree&#8221; on some theoligcal matters, and therefore there is room for debates and diversity within the church? Do you agree with my seperation of essentail faith matters, and non-essential faith matters(like infant baptism)? </p>
<p>I need to know your answers first, so I can know what framework we are discussing creationism, a matter of &#8220;differed theolgical interpretation&#8221;, or a matter of &#8220;absolute right vs. wrong&#8221;(meaning if one side is wrong, that side will be condmened by God as heretics, just like Jeohovah&#8217;s Witness).<br />
Before I give my testimony, I will first wait for your resposne.</p>
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		<title>By: Melody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So JEL, lets keep going with the creation thing.  I have given some specifics on why I have no problem with a literal rendering of the creation account of Genesis 1.  You say you used to believe the same yet have changed your mind.  What happened?  What new scriptural insight did you acquire to lead you to a different belief?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So JEL, lets keep going with the creation thing.  I have given some specifics on why I have no problem with a literal rendering of the creation account of Genesis 1.  You say you used to believe the same yet have changed your mind.  What happened?  What new scriptural insight did you acquire to lead you to a different belief?</p>
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		<title>By: harmonicminer</title>
		<link>http://www.harmonicminer.com/wordpress/2009/12/31/diversity-as-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-2897</link>
		<dc:creator>harmonicminer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JEL, for me, it would depend on whether infant baptism was just a sort of &quot;christening&quot; or &quot;dedication&quot; in the mind of the participants, or whether the church taught that it was actual some part of the &quot;salvation experience&quot; for the infant, something that actually helped to &quot;save&quot; the infant.

If the former, no big deal, just a little odd, to my taste.   If the latter, it means that particular church has some concept of salvation that involves church authority and ritual instead of choice by a knowing moral agent acting in faith.  That&#039;s simply not Biblical, and belief in it undermines a person&#039;s ability to understand God&#039;s plan for salvation.

The point:  what may seem trivial to you may not be trivial.  It just depends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JEL, for me, it would depend on whether infant baptism was just a sort of &#8220;christening&#8221; or &#8220;dedication&#8221; in the mind of the participants, or whether the church taught that it was actual some part of the &#8220;salvation experience&#8221; for the infant, something that actually helped to &#8220;save&#8221; the infant.</p>
<p>If the former, no big deal, just a little odd, to my taste.   If the latter, it means that particular church has some concept of salvation that involves church authority and ritual instead of choice by a knowing moral agent acting in faith.  That&#8217;s simply not Biblical, and belief in it undermines a person&#8217;s ability to understand God&#8217;s plan for salvation.</p>
<p>The point:  what may seem trivial to you may not be trivial.  It just depends.</p>
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		<title>By: jong eun lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>jong eun lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bill I agree with you on honest discussions of Biblical teachings. Through our discussions and fellowships we may grwo together in faith. Yet, it is also possible that after years of fellowship, we still have disagreements. In such cases, I propose we still accept each other as fellow Christians &quot;inspite of our continued theolgoical disagrements.&quot;

Melody, I beleive in the central tenets of Christian faith written in the Apostle&#039;s Creed. Yet, in theology there are fundemental elements(say divinity in Jesus) that requires unity of the church, but also minor elements where disagreement will happen. By essentials I mean the beleifs essential to salvation, for an instance recognition of person&#039;s sinful nature and Christ&#039;s universal atonement. (surely you are not saying by rejecting literal creationism, by salvation is jeopardized?). While I have my views on Bible that seems so clear to me, I continue to have discussions with other christians to further deepen my understanding(for an instance, I too once supported literal creationism but not any more), and realize my Christian brothers may not always agree with me on some theolgoical issues. Wouldn&#039;t you also extend such courtesy to your fellow Christian brothers and sisters as well. 
For an instance, suppose you oppose infant baptism theologically and your church decides to adopt the ritual. Would you leave the church in protest?    
       
Mr. Harmonicminer, I have lot to say to you, but since my question was to Melody cheifly, I will respectfully ignore you in this particular discussion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bill I agree with you on honest discussions of Biblical teachings. Through our discussions and fellowships we may grwo together in faith. Yet, it is also possible that after years of fellowship, we still have disagreements. In such cases, I propose we still accept each other as fellow Christians &#8220;inspite of our continued theolgoical disagrements.&#8221;</p>
<p>Melody, I beleive in the central tenets of Christian faith written in the Apostle&#8217;s Creed. Yet, in theology there are fundemental elements(say divinity in Jesus) that requires unity of the church, but also minor elements where disagreement will happen. By essentials I mean the beleifs essential to salvation, for an instance recognition of person&#8217;s sinful nature and Christ&#8217;s universal atonement. (surely you are not saying by rejecting literal creationism, by salvation is jeopardized?). While I have my views on Bible that seems so clear to me, I continue to have discussions with other christians to further deepen my understanding(for an instance, I too once supported literal creationism but not any more), and realize my Christian brothers may not always agree with me on some theolgoical issues. Wouldn&#8217;t you also extend such courtesy to your fellow Christian brothers and sisters as well.<br />
For an instance, suppose you oppose infant baptism theologically and your church decides to adopt the ritual. Would you leave the church in protest?    </p>
<p>Mr. Harmonicminer, I have lot to say to you, but since my question was to Melody cheifly, I will respectfully ignore you in this particular discussion.</p>
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